Interesting. Based on the backgrounds, this concept was for Europe/Germany?

Desscythe17 wrote
My two sources confirm same ones - magazine and website. But ok.

Desscythe17 wrote
Oh, we have got confused model years and production years. Model years were 1960-1961, but as a tradition, car was avaliable from autumn 1959 to autumn 1961.

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JFK wrote
I believe you are talking about US modelyears, which my sources confirm. 1960 would be 1959-1960, and 1961 would be 1960-1961. Therefore, this page is dedicated to the 1961 Comet, built from 1960 to 1961. And therefore, both engines were available from beginning to end.

And yes, I deleted top speed, acceleration and fuel economy because it is not reliable for such old cars. Every two sources says something different.

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These two prototypes was build based on Giulia Sprint GT chassis and were equipped with 1.6 Giulia TI engine, not V8s used in serial production.

Desscythe17 wrote
Yes and apology acepted
Desscythe17 wrote
Ok, I can understand it.
BTW, did you changed top speeds, 0-60 times and fuel economy to unknown? + in 1960 there was only 90HP version - some sources say it is 85HP, some 90HP. 101HP was only in 1961, and it was used after rebranding it to Mercury Comet from 1962 onwards. It was added as a option because 90/85 HP engine was sluggish.

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I have changed the presentation to Paris 1994, because although that car just debuted in Rallye Alasce Vosgues 1995, it has been unveiled in Paris Motorshow 1994.

JFK wrote
My apologies for the Canada-only thing, after some more research I found that the Comet was originally intended to be an Edsel, which went defunct just before the release. Therefore it was just called Comet for 1960 and 1961 (although it was sold through Mercury dealerships). In Canada, there was no 1960 Comet, as they sold the Frontenac there.

There was nothing wrong with your pictures, but I found higher quality ones, so I replaced them.

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Desscythe17 wrote
No, it was not. Proof: Magazine Popular Mechanics was testing Comet in 1961. They were asking following Comet owners: manager from California, pensionist from Nevada, air-traffic guy from Georgia, technical drawer from Pennsylvania, bank employee from Michigan, retired firefighter from Michigan and doctor from California. In Chrom a Plameny magazine issue 05/15 is this car reviewed in 6 pages, that is quite a lot. It is a 1961 Comet of one lady from San Diego that bought it when it was brand new and she sold it to heir serviceman 4 years ago. Do you think that all these people would import the car from Canada? In fact 116 331 Comets were produced in 1960, which is strikingly better than Frontenac, that produced less than 10k, and it was still second best selling compact car in Canada. I doubt that "Comet only for Canada" would make such a monopoly, with advance nearly 100k more cars produced than Frontenac.

I dont know either what was wrong with my front pic "EDIT: both" that it was replaced.

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It was Canada-only.

In 1961 model year Comet replaced Canadian brand that lasted one year: Frontenac. It was basically luxurious Falcon with odd mask and with Ford badges replaced by round badge with red leaf that Canada have in national flag.


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Ford78 wrote
Frers is champion. I accidentally put Artega in GT3 Cup class.

Are Moritz Weeber and Niklas Frers both champions? Or only Weeber is the champion?

Mieguy wrote
Does it matter? As long as it's corrected.

The Concept Car was shown in Frankfurt, but the production model was shown in Geneva 2004. Who messed that up?

Either this or www.webcarstory.com/voiture.php?id=8590 needs a different rear picture. Currently they're the same.

Shouldn't the origin be Japan, since it IS just a rebadged Suzuki?

After more than 10 years, the Verisa is finally out of production. It's strange how a car that shared a lot of parts with Fords of the mid-2000s was still in production between all those new Mazdas.

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Mark0 wrote
Thanks corrected

Desscythe17 wrote
You are right. My bad.

Mark0 wrote
I'm pretty sure it's the exact same, are you sure you didn't compare it with the 87-90?

Fantastic final race. Shedden started from 19 on grid fight to P4 to take champion title. Congratulations.

Alonso and Raikkonen gets penalty.

I see different front mask and trunk.

Could be interior facelift.

What is the difference between the 82-85 and the 85-87?

Is it true that they could be started by removing hazard lights button and put it back upside down?
It would be hilarious.

JFK wrote
Small mistake with the years, I will edit the Eagle soon. American cars on the European market usually had the biggest engines, as American cars were seen as expensive, thirsty luxury cars. So if you are going to buy one, you'll want the best one.

The horsepower thing often happens. European horsepower and American horsepower are not the same. American horsepower is always a little lower. Japanese cars also use European hp on Webcarstory, so you can see that the same car with the same engine has more hp in Japan.

That is odd, usually, when one model stops producing, it will be no longer avaliable for other markets (if the production does not move in other country, like Daewoo - Uzbekistan case).
Interesting move on european market. "Lets throw away small engine and keep only the biggest one with 4 speed automatic transmission."
Some people tend to confuse eagle and Chryslers versions, thats why I added same engine as Eagles: www.autorevue.cz/chrysler-vision-tsi-skvela-volba-zkusenosti_3 You can see here that it is stated that it have even more torque/power than US version.

i had correct it, chrysler vision is for 1992-1998, (eagle 1993-1997??)
Also only one V6 and with little changes. This is why we had to separate both models and not only copy paste the Eagle Vision