Web Car Story: Moskvich

Moskvich

	Origine : Russie Siège Social Moscow, Russia Années d'Activité 1946-2002, 2022-present

Production Interrompue

1991-1995 Moskvich 2141 4x4

1988-1995 Moskvich 2141 Aleko-Rally A6

1974-1976 Moskvich G5M

1968-1973 Moskvich G5

1963-1972 Moskvich G4

1962-1965 Moskvich 407 Coupe

1961-1965 Moskvich G3

1953-1965 Moskvich 404 Sport

1955-1963 Moskvich G1

1958-1962 Moskvich 407 Rally

1957-1960 Moskvich SA

1956-1960 Moskvich G2

Auteur	Message
JFK 2015-11-10 21:17	Who came up with bright idea to translate it as Moskvich? It is derived from Moscow, so Moskwich would be more suitable. (If it is not clear - it is not mistake done by anyone here, but someone who translated it in cold war)
fck 2015-11-10 23:31	[quote=JFK]Who came up with bright idea to translate it as Moskvich? It is derived from Moscow, so Moskwich would be more suitable. (If it is not clear - it is not mistake done by anyone here, but someone who translated it in cold war)[/quote Can't find why we're using 'w' in Moscow, but this is an exception. в is a 'v' in every cyrillic-english transcription standard. Why not 'Moskva'? Because in XII century this city was called "Moskov".
JFK 2015-11-10 23:37	fck a écrit Can't find why we're using 'w' in Moscow, but this is an exception. в is a 'v' in every cyrillic-english transcription standard. Why not 'Moskva'? Because in XII century this city was called "Moskov". If am I not mistaken, cyrilic alphabet doesnt have W at all. I must say though, Moscow would look oddly with normal V, but that is only habit. In fact, I dont see reason why they did W either. For sure it looks odd when we are using W in city name and V in car name. It should be either all W, or all V.
Desscythe17 2015-11-11 10:31	JFK a écrit If am I not mistaken, cyrilic alphabet doesnt have W at all. I must say though, Moscow would look oddly with normal V, but that is only habit. In fact, I dont see reason why they did W either. For sure it looks odd when we are using W in city name and V in car name. It should be either all W, or all V. You might be overthinking it. The English translation should be exactly the way you hear it. So if you hear a v-sound instead of a w-sound, it should be Moskvitch. It might be similar to the centuries-old debate about "vodka" or "wodka".
JFK 2015-11-11 14:56	Desscythe17 a écrit The English translation should be exactly the way you hear it. So if you hear a v-sound instead of a w-sound, it should be Moskvitch. It might be similar to the centuries-old debate about "vodka" or "wodka". That may be the problem. In czech language, V and W have exactly same pronounciation. But as I thought about it more, I think I somehow get it now (and thanks to IGCD member krq9), because english W sounds similar to mine U, so it would sound more oddly. -- Last edit: 2015-11-11 14:57:11
SolanaBogon 2023-02-07 09:24	Why "Moskvitch", and not "Moskvich", without the "t"? Not only it is the correct English transcription of cyrillic "Москвич", but it is also how they spell it on brochures (at least English ones) and export badges: www.autominded.net/brochure/div9/1969%20Moskvich%2006.jpg -- Last edit: 2023-02-07 09:25:33
Desscythe17 2023-02-08 15:08	I would be fine with changing it, but I don't know if the system will recognize it for everything. -- Last edit: 2023-02-08 15:08:46
SolanaBogon 2023-02-09 19:32	Desscythe17 a écrit I would be fine with changing it, but I don't know if the system will recognize it for everything. You could rename the main page and I'm willing to edit manually the individual entries
Desscythe17 2023-02-09 20:12	SolanaBogon a écrit You could rename the main page and I'm willing to edit manually the individual entries There you go

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JFK

2015-11-10 21:17

Who came up with bright idea to translate it as Moskvich? It is derived from Moscow, so Moskwich would be more suitable.
(If it is not clear - it is not mistake done by anyone here, but someone who translated it in cold war)

fck

2015-11-10 23:31

[quote=JFK]Who came up with bright idea to translate it as Moskvich? It is derived from Moscow, so Moskwich would be more suitable.
(If it is not clear - it is not mistake done by anyone here, but someone who translated it in cold war)[/quote

Can't find why we're using 'w' in Moscow, but this is an exception. в is a 'v' in every cyrillic-english transcription standard. Why not 'Moskva'? Because in XII century this city was called "Moskov".

JFK

2015-11-10 23:37

fck a écrit

Can't find why we're using 'w' in Moscow, but this is an exception. в is a 'v' in every cyrillic-english transcription standard. Why not 'Moskva'? Because in XII century this city was called "Moskov".

If am I not mistaken, cyrilic alphabet doesnt have W at all. I must say though, Moscow would look oddly with normal V, but that is only habit. In fact, I dont see reason why they did W either.

For sure it looks odd when we are using W in city name and V in car name. It should be either all W, or all V.

Desscythe17

2015-11-11 10:31

JFK a écrit

You might be overthinking it. The English translation should be exactly the way you hear it. So if you hear a v-sound instead of a w-sound, it should be Moskvitch. It might be similar to the centuries-old debate about "vodka" or "wodka".

JFK

2015-11-11 14:56

Desscythe17 a écrit

The English translation should be exactly the way you hear it. So if you hear a v-sound instead of a w-sound, it should be Moskvitch. It might be similar to the centuries-old debate about "vodka" or "wodka".

That may be the problem. In czech language, V and W have exactly same pronounciation.
But as I thought about it more, I think I somehow get it now (and thanks to IGCD member krq9), because english W sounds similar to mine U, so it would sound more oddly.

-- Last edit: 2015-11-11 14:57:11

SolanaBogon

2023-02-07 09:24

Why "Moskvitch", and not "Moskvich", without the "t"? Not only it is the correct English transcription of cyrillic "Москвич", but it is also how they spell it on brochures (at least English ones) and export badges:

www.autominded.net/brochure/div9/1969%20Moskvich%2006.jpg

-- Last edit: 2023-02-07 09:25:33

Desscythe17

2023-02-08 15:08

I would be fine with changing it, but I don't know if the system will recognize it for everything.

-- Last edit: 2023-02-08 15:08:46

SolanaBogon

2023-02-09 19:32

Desscythe17 a écrit

I would be fine with changing it, but I don't know if the system will recognize it for everything.

You could rename the main page and I'm willing to edit manually the individual entries

Desscythe17

2023-02-09 20:12

SolanaBogon a écrit

You could rename the main page and I'm willing to edit manually the individual entries

There you go

Moskvich

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Production Interrompue

1991-1995 Moskvich 2141 4x4

1988-1995 Moskvich 2141 Aleko-Rally A6

1974-1976 Moskvich G5M

1968-1973 Moskvich G5

1963-1972 Moskvich G4

1962-1965 Moskvich 407 Coupe

1961-1965 Moskvich G3

1953-1965 Moskvich 404 Sport

1955-1963 Moskvich G1

1958-1962 Moskvich 407 Rally

1957-1960 Moskvich SA

1956-1960 Moskvich G2

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