1986 Jay Ohrberg American Dream




Origin: US USA

Class: Proto / Concept

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DE Mieguy

2016-01-23 23:43
German wikipedia says that design of the ATS is called "Stummelheck". Never heard a german say that. :D Ironically Wikipedia also says that Hatchback can be "Stummelhecks" too. Thats just hatchbacks with very short rear.


QA JFK

2016-01-23 22:58
Desscythe17 wrote
I'm quite sure the ATS is a regular 4-door sedan.

I just googled it and youre absolutely right.


NL Desscythe17

2016-01-23 22:52
I'm quite sure the ATS is a regular 4-door sedan. The correct use of hatchback really is a car where the rear window opens together with the trunk.


QA JFK

2016-01-23 22:51
Mieguy wrote
I see that the ATS is not a "real" Hatchback, because Hatchbacks have a rear hatch that also lifts the window up.
However we generally still call it Hatchback if the rear is very short and the window close to the end. This also depends on country.
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Oh, okay then, I see it is a thing that depends on state, because in CZ we have it as that:
Hatchback - car with end cutted off and rear window open with trunk - for example Golf, Astra, Ibiza, Fabia
Liftback - something between hatchback an sedan. It have openable rear window together with trunk, but it is shaped moreless like a sedan - Passat, Vectra, Octavia
Fastback - it is not a regular word in CZ (mostly between US cars enthusiasts, which I am), but since the Bullit Mustang is a great example of a Fastback, I use it personally only for coupes without clear border of cabin and trunk - 1980s Rapid

EDIT: I just translated the word "hatch" to see what it means. It sounds funny, something like entrance to a submarine. BTW we dont have for hatchback nor liftback our own words, but for fastback we use phrase "Kupé se splývavou zádí" - "Coupe with merged back"

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DE Mieguy

2016-01-23 22:38
I see that the ATS is not a "real" Hatchback, because Hatchbacks have a rear hatch that also lifts the window up.


However we generally still call it Hatchback if the rear is very short and the window close to the end. This also depends on country. In Germany the term "Hatchback" (Fließheck) is basically gone. We either say 4- or 5-door. The 5-door is the classic Hatchback given by the common explanation. The word Fließheck is rarely used, specifically on cars that are available as Sedan and Hatchback. The Opel Insignia is one of current rare examples where we germans call it a Fließheck so to differ it from the "Stufenheck"-Insignia (= Sedan).

Edit: Oh and the term Liftback is handled like "Fastback" in Germany. Its just a manufacturer name. :D

-- Last edit: 2016-01-23 22:40:21


QA JFK

2016-01-23 21:46
Mieguy wrote
More like liftback than hatchback, but that is just quibble.
DE Mieguy

2016-01-23 21:45
Sure? www.kbb.com/car-pictures/2015-cadillac-ats-hatchback-pictures/?id=399554
DE Gamer

2016-01-22 23:37
Mieguy wrote
Teacher, this question is wrong! Have you ever seen a 1 meter long car? (Even the Smart is 2,50 Meter)

My point was: have you ever seen a Cadillac hatchback (that's what it said!) aside from a concept? No. Cadillac has not, will not, nor will ever build a hatchback.


QA JFK

2016-01-22 19:44
Desscythe17 wrote

Slightly more than 1 meter, but still www.webcarstory.com/voiture.php?id=41

Even smaller car: assets.passionperformance.ca/photos/1/5/1/151485_Top_10_des_voitures_faisant_partie_du_Guinness_World_Records.jpg


NL Desscythe17

2016-01-22 19:06
Mieguy wrote
Teacher, this question is wrong! Have you ever seen a 1 meter long car? (Even the Smart is 2,50 Meter)

Slightly more than 1 meter, but still www.webcarstory.com/voiture.php?id=41
DE Mieguy

2016-01-22 18:47
Teacher, this question is wrong! Have you ever seen a 1 meter long car? (Even the Smart is 2,50 Meter)
DE Gamer

2016-01-22 17:21
My 6th grade math book asked an unsolveable question about this thing - "The car is as long as 30 compact cars of the same make How long is each car?"


NL Desscythe17

2015-12-27 14:46
I would say prototype myself.


QA JFK

2015-12-27 14:41
This is hard to decide what it should be listed.

Limousine - well, this is indeed a limousine, but not for sale or normal using
Race: Record - yeah, this car was built only to became longest car in world, but I doubt it was racing, or ever moving with at higher speed than continents move.
Prototype - ultimate solution for all oddities?

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