1999-2004 Ford Focus Wagon



Origin: DE Germany

Class: Wagon

Chassis: C170

Mk 1

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Design: John Doughty, Claude Lobo

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Country Flag m.pfaffeneder
2013-02-11 20:45
german origin!
Country Flag Ford78
2013-02-11 20:49
m.pfaffeneder wrote
german origin!

No m.pfaffeneder. It isn´t from Germany. This car was made in US.
Country Flag m.pfaffeneder
2013-02-11 20:56
It was indeed made in the US and especially made for the US, but it´s basically a MkI Focus Turnier (Wagon, 1998-2004). Just with a few modifications.
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2013-02-11 22:22
The Ford Focus is a global car made by Ford Motor Company, not by a specific department. So the European models are German origin, and the American models are US origin. The American Focus isn't based off the European Focus. It's the same car sold from a later date.
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2013-02-12 12:30
But the Focus was developed by Ford of Europe (Köln-Niehl, Germany) and here are some proofs, that it should be listed as german origin:

www.imcdb.org/vehicle.php?id=171131&l=en
www.imcdb.org/vehicle_260874-Ford-Focus.html
www.imcdb.org/vehicle_36500-Ford-Focus-2000.html
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2013-02-12 12:55
I'm pretty sure the Focus was developed by Ford Mo. Co. and not by Ford Europe. And as imcdb.org is edited by all sorts of people, it isn't valid proof, just like for example igcd or wikipedia
Country Flag m.pfaffeneder
2013-02-12 16:33
And I´m pretty sure that it was developed by Ford Europe. Have you got any proofs, that it was developed by Ford Motor Corp.?
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2013-02-12 17:43
The only proof I can give you is that everywhere you look, it says it's manufactured by Ford. Not Ford Europe specifically. Besides, you're the one who wants to change the origin of the car, not me, so you have to show proof, I don't.
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2013-02-12 18:11
Here, I´ve got two other proofs:
de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_Focus (Although it was developed by the European dependent company, it was a success in the US)
www.presseportal.de/pm/6955/2281423/ford-europa-beruft-ford-focus-und-c-max-konstrukteur-gunnar-herrmann-zum-vizepraesidenten-fuer (... he managed the car body development in Germany of the Mk I Focus...)
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2013-02-12 19:00
Thank you. The second link proves that the Ford Focus was of German origin.
Country Flag m.pfaffeneder
2013-02-15 21:23
Why is it still listed as model origin: USA?

PS: and obviously all the other Focuses as well

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2013-02-15 21:26:11
Country Flag Ford78
2013-02-15 21:29
m.pfaffeneder wrote
Why is it still listed as model origin: USA?

PS: and obviously all the other Focuses as well

Because the Focus was made by Ford Motor Company, not in german Ford!
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2013-02-16 10:08
m.pfaffeneder wrote
Why is it still listed as model origin: USA?

PS: and obviously all the other Focuses as well

you can edit them youself if you want
Country Flag m.pfaffeneder
2013-02-16 21:38
@Ford78: See the last proof I´ve listed. All Focuses are german origin.
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2013-02-17 21:51
m.pfaffeneder wrote
@Ford78: See the last proof I´ve listed. All Focuses are german origin.

Actually the Focus were made in Germany, m.pfaffeneder. However, the German Focus are different than this one because of facellit....
You actually can compare between a German Focus and a American Focus...

American Focus has the orange headlights on side of front lights
upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/dd/2000-04_Ford_Focus_SE_sedan.jpg

And the German Focus don´t have.
www.autoweb99.com/files/pictures/picture_62946.jpg
Country Flag m.pfaffeneder
2013-02-18 20:59
@Ford78: I know that the US Focus has some other details like the orange sidemarkers, but these are just necessary modifications for the US market.
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2013-02-18 21:08
I think the SVT versions should be USA origin though, as all tuned cars on the site have the origin of the tuner instead of the car itself, for example, Arden tunes Jaguars, but they all have German origin.

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