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Rinspeed FR (8272)

2018-04-18 20:14

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Hi, this is a false make (it will erase later).
Before the summer, like each year, i ask you about new feature for Webcarstory or things to change, erase etc. Each year i had a lot of time in summer to do it.
My proposition: return of the model cars (i had erase them quickly in the past), because a lot of men passionate by cars collect some models cars and it could be a new public for WCS.

What about your propositions? Changes? Critics about my proposition?

Desscythe17 NL (9482)

2018-04-18 23:13

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Rinspeed napisał Hi, this is a false make (it will erase later).
Before the summer, like each year, i ask you about new feature for Webcarstory or things to change, erase etc. Each year i had a lot of time in summer to do it.
My proposition: return of the model cars (i had erase them quickly in the past), because a lot of men passionate by cars collect some models cars and it could be a new public for WCS.

What about your propositions? Changes? Critics about my proposition?

I personally won't do anything with model cars, so do as you like.

I was wondering if the special editions could be changed a little bit? If you've seen the way I use that section, I usually add trim levels of cars that have a different grille, or maybe a bodykit, but nothing different when it comes to engines.
Could the special editions section be changed to Limited Edition/Special Edition/Trim Differences? Otherwise, maybe add a new section that could be used for just extra (small) pics of the car? (Though it should resize pics automatically, like the pictures in the "last completed" bar)

Mark0 RB (1675)

2018-04-19 08:26

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Rinspeed napisał Hi, this is a false make (it will erase later).
Before the summer, like each year, i ask you about new feature for Webcarstory or things to change, erase etc. Each year i had a lot of time in summer to do it.
My proposition: return of the model cars (i had erase them quickly in the past), because a lot of men passionate by cars collect some models cars and it could be a new public for WCS.

What about your propositions? Changes? Critics about my proposition?


Return of model cars is not bad idea. Since I have 800 of them I could upload pic of every car :D

Also few years back I asked about adding some info about manufacturers like founding date, founder, HQ location and that. You said that it was difficult for some manufacturers but I think that's easy for big amount of them.

Rinspeed FR (8272)

2018-04-19 16:17

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Mark0 napisał

Return of model cars is not bad idea. Since I have 800 of them I could upload pic of every car :D

Also few years back I asked about adding some info about manufacturers like founding date, founder, HQ location and that. You said that it was difficult for some manufacturers but I think that's easy for big amount of them.

For models cars, i had also a lot and there is also the official pics from some makers( Ixo, Spark...). It will be easy i think to put it, i think i had always the old files.

For the infos, if this is simple infos, yes we can.

Rinspeed FR (8272)

2018-04-19 16:19

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Desscythe17 napisał
I personally won't do anything with model cars, so do as you like.

I was wondering if the special editions could be changed a little bit? If you've seen the way I use that section, I usually add trim levels of cars that have a different grille, or maybe a bodykit, but nothing different when it comes to engines.
Could the special editions section be changed to Limited Edition/Special Edition/Trim Differences? Otherwise, maybe add a new section that could be used for just extra (small) pics of the car? (Though it should resize pics automatically, like the pictures in the "last completed" bar)

Perhaps a different section... i don't know how to add it at the moment. I hadn't understand the part for the small pics at the end of you message.

Desscythe17 NL (9482)

2018-04-19 20:08

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Rinspeed napisał
Perhaps a different section... i don't know how to add it at the moment. I hadn't understand the part for the small pics at the end of you message.

I was thinking maybe small pics on the car's page of different versions with small visual changes that are not enough for a new page.

For example: www.webcarstory.com/voiture.php?id=19611

As you can see, I put the Infiniti QX80 Limited in the special editions section, even though it was built for 2 years. I don't think the Limited needs a special page or anything, but it would be nice if some small pics of the Limited could be on the QX80 page, because it has different features, like clear taillights.

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Rinspeed FR (8272)

2018-04-19 21:57

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Desscythe17 napisał
I was thinking maybe small pics on the car's page of different versions with small visual changes that are not enough for a new page.

For example: www.webcarstory.com/voiture.php?id=19611

As you can see, I put the Infiniti QX80 Limited in the special editions section, even though it was built for 2 years. I don't think the Limited needs a special page or anything, but it would be nice if some small pics of the Limited could be on the QX80 page, because it has different features, like clear taillights.

the problem is that depend of the country for the trim. it could be very different.

Desscythe17 NL (9482)

2018-04-20 00:30

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Rinspeed napisał
the problem is that depend of the country for the trim. it could be very different.

With the brands I do which are divided for North America and Japan, that shouldn't be a problem.

Rinspeed FR (8272)

2018-04-20 00:35

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Desscythe17 napisał
With the brands I do which are divided for North America and Japan, that shouldn't be a problem.

but for Europe it's a problem

Desscythe17 NL (9482)

2018-04-20 07:33

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but for Europe it's a problem

Can you give an example of a car that would cause a problem? I think trim levels may have different names in a few countries, but I can't think of a car that has a certain look in one country, but not in the other.

I think it could be a way of adding Audi S Line and such, which don't have any different engines, to the website without creating new pages.
Of course it's also up to the contributor to decide if a trim level needs to have pictures. Not every single trim level is different enough to require it.

Rinspeed FR (8272)

2018-04-20 09:10

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Desscythe17 napisał
Can you give an example of a car that would cause a problem? I think trim levels may have different names in a few countries, but I can't think of a car that has a certain look in one country, but not in the other.

I think it could be a way of adding Audi S Line and such, which don't have any different engines, to the website without creating new pages.
Of course it's also up to the contributor to decide if a trim level needs to have pictures. Not every single trim level is different enough to require it.

it's easy for premium cars but not for others. Each one can have differents alloy wheels etc

Desscythe17 NL (9482)

2018-04-20 10:00

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Rinspeed napisał
it's easy for premium cars but not for others. Each one can have differents alloy wheels etc

Maybe I didn't explain it well enough, it's not for such small differences as alloys/rims or an exhaust or something. I was really thinking like bodykits, grilles, spoilers, and preferably a combination of these things. It has to be things you can see are different from a distance.

Here is another example:
webcarstory.com/voiture.php?id=28671

The Auster Euroforma at the bottom of the page has subtle, but noticeable differences, it doesn't have a different engine.

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Rinspeed FR (8272)

2018-04-20 10:13

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Desscythe17 napisał
Maybe I didn't explain it well enough, it's not for such small differences as alloys/rims or an exhaust or something. I was really thinking like bodykits, grilles, spoilers, and preferably a combination of these things. It has to be things you can see are different from a distance.

Here is another example:
webcarstory.com/voiture.php?id=28671

The Auster Euroforma at the bottom of the page has subtle, but noticeable differences, it doesn't have a different engine.

Fiat 500S for example?

Desscythe17 NL (9482)

2018-04-20 11:58

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Fiat 500S for example?

Yes, I think that's a good example of what I mean. I don't think it's different enough from the normal Fiat 500 for a separate page, but it does deserve to be shown on the website.

Rinspeed FR (8272)

2018-04-20 13:11

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Desscythe17 napisał
Yes, I think that's a good example of what I mean. I don't think it's different enough from the normal Fiat 500 for a separate page, but it does deserve to be shown on the website.

ok i will how i can do that

Rinspeed FR (8272)

2018-04-22 19:04

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Desscythe17 napisał
Yes, I think that's a good example of what I mean. I don't think it's different enough from the normal Fiat 500 for a separate page, but it does deserve to be shown on the website.

You want the same system as limited series? With a specific page with 3 pics?

Rinspeed FR (8272)

2018-04-22 19:05

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Mark0 napisał

Return of model cars is not bad idea. Since I have 800 of them I could upload pic of every car :D

Also few years back I asked about adding some info about manufacturers like founding date, founder, HQ location and that. You said that it was difficult for some manufacturers but I think that's easy for big amount of them.

And what are the info that you want for manufacturers?

Mark0 RB (1675)

2018-04-22 20:07

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Rinspeed napisał
And what are the info that you want for manufacturers?

Founded
Founder
Headquarters location
Maybe predecessor/successor (like successor for NSU is Audi)
Also subsidiaries and divisions but i think this will be mess.

Desscythe17 NL (9482)

2018-04-22 20:53

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Rinspeed napisał
You want the same system as limited series? With a specific page with 3 pics?

I think that would work?
Just a name and two or three pics is enough. I don't think I will often post interior pictures for such a thing.

Rinspeed FR (8272)

2018-04-22 22:32

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Desscythe17 napisał
I think that would work?
Just a name and two or three pics is enough. I don't think I will often post interior pictures for such a thing.

and i let the text for equipment or no?

Rinspeed FR (8272)

2018-04-22 22:34

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Mark0 napisał
Founded
Founder
Headquarters location
Maybe predecessor/successor (like successor for NSU is Audi)
Also subsidiaries and divisions but i think this will be mess.

Predecessor Successor, there isn't a lot of make with that. Subsidiaries and Divisions, it will be difficult.
But Founded Founder and Headquarters ok

Desscythe17 NL (9482)

2018-04-22 23:02

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Rinspeed napisał
and i let the text for equipment or no?

I don't plan to add any equipment, but you can add if you want to use it yourself.

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Rinspeed FR (8272)

2018-04-23 17:42

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Mark0 napisał
Founded
Founder
Headquarters location
Maybe predecessor/successor (like successor for NSU is Audi)
Also subsidiaries and divisions but i think this will be mess.

Instead of Founded, it was better to put Years of Activity (i don't know the real name), no?

Desscythe17 NL (9482)

2018-04-23 18:35

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Rinspeed napisał
Instead of Founded, it was better to put Years of Activity (i don't know the real name), no?

Maybe Founding Year and Final Year?

Also, for future comments, maybe it's a good idea to make a page like this for motorsport?

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Rinspeed FR (8272)

2018-04-23 19:28

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Desscythe17 napisał
Maybe Founding Year and Final Year?

Also, for future comments, maybe it's a good idea to make a page like this for motorsport?

what? i don't understand
you don't prefer years of activity? because in some case there is some "hole" in the activity with a relaunch.

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Desscythe17 NL (9482)

2018-04-23 19:56

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Rinspeed napisał
what? i don't understand
you don't prefer years of activity? because in some case there is some "hole" in the activity with a relaunch.

That's true, maybe Years of Activity is better.

I meant like you made this page to discuss changes to WebCarStory, there should also be a page to discuss anything related to racing cars and championships on WCS, because those comments are often posted on random pages.

Rinspeed FR (8272)

2018-04-23 20:02

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Desscythe17 napisał
That's true, maybe Years of Activity is better.

I meant like you made this page to discuss changes to WebCarStory, there should also be a page to discuss anything related to racing cars and championships on WCS, because those comments are often posted on random pages.

there is already comments in the championships pages

Desscythe17 NL (9482)

2018-04-23 22:08

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Rinspeed napisał
there is already comments in the championships pages

Oh I didn't notice, my bad.

Rinspeed FR (8272)

2018-06-02 09:12

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Some news about the problems of IGCD and Webcarstory. This seems due to an overload on the site (a lot of visitors and a lot of request at the database). I had pay more to prevent that but they said that there is a lot of request in the database that could do problem also. So, just to see, is there fonctionnality that you see that there are useful in IGCD and WCS? I don't have the time now but i can do the list of the request to the database for the pages games/car in IGCD and make/car in WCS if you want to see them.

Desscythe17 NL (9482)

2018-06-02 16:33

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Rinspeed napisał Some news about the problems of IGCD and Webcarstory. This seems due to an overload on the site (a lot of visitors and a lot of request at the database). I had pay more to prevent that but they said that there is a lot of request in the database that could do problem also. So, just to see, is there fonctionnality that you see that there are useful in IGCD and WCS? I don't have the time now but i can do the list of the request to the database for the pages games/car in IGCD and make/car in WCS if you want to see them.

I'm not entirely sure what you mean with request at the database. What would you like to see from us?

Rinspeed FR (8272)

2018-06-02 23:27

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Desscythe17 napisał
I'm not entirely sure what you mean with request at the database. What would you like to see from us?

Example for IGCD:
15 requests for all the pages:
- 2 request to update the date of the lang files in translation
- 13 requests to update the points of the visitor
- 1 request to update the date of the last visit

16 requests for a game page:
- 1 request to search the game of the page
- 1 request to see if there is some cars in the game
- 1 request to see if there is some tracks in the game
- 1 request to see the initial of the make to make a sub menu before the pics
- 1 request to see the pics and infos about each cars
- 1 request to see the sub menu with number after the pics
- 1 request to verify if the visitor had done a test for the game
- 1 request to see the results of the test of the game
- 7 requests for the note of the intro video ( to see if the user had already post one note or not and calculate it)
- 1 request for the comments

requests for a car page:
- 1 request to see the info of the cars
- 1 request to see if there is an update or not to approvate (for admins)
- 1 request for the comments

Same things for WCS but with a lot more requests as there is a lot more differents sections

Desscythe17 NL (9482)

2018-06-02 23:59

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Rinspeed napisał
Example for IGCD:

Same things for WCS but with a lot more requests as there is a lot more differents sections

I see, well if there is a problem with too many requests from the database, it looks like a lot of requests go to updating points.
I personally don't really care about points (don't know about other members), and I think we don't really need them to judge whether a member can be an admin or not.
So if it would be better for the database, points can be deleted entirely in my opinion.

I also don't know if it helps at all, but the page you get saying "Car/engine/location/whatever added successfully." doesn't seem necessary for me. If you add an engine for example and then immediately return to the car page, that works fine. It would even save time I think. I don't know if that has any impact on database requests though.

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Rinspeed FR (8272)

2018-06-03 09:10

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Desscythe17 napisał
I see, well if there is a problem with too many requests from the database, it looks like a lot of requests go to updating points.
I personally don't really care about points (don't know about other members), and I think we don't really need them to judge whether a member can be an admin or not.
So if it would be better for the database, points can be deleted entirely in my opinion.

I also don't know if it helps at all, but the page you get saying "Car/engine/location/whatever added successfully." doesn't seem necessary for me. If you add an engine for example and then immediately return to the car page, that works fine. It would even save time I think. I don't know if that has any impact on database requests though.

No Car engine etc added successfully isn't a request.
Perhaps the points yes. I think also the note for intro in IGCD, the note for car in WCS (not used), the cars for the stars (i don't see them used)? Points for Carspotting? Tell me what you think and some things that we could erase without impact.

Desscythe17 NL (9482)

2018-06-03 10:40

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No Car engine etc added successfully isn't a request.
Perhaps the points yes. I think also the note for intro in IGCD, the note for car in WCS (not used), the cars for the stars (i don't see them used)? Points for Carspotting? Tell me what you think and some things that we could erase without impact.

Sounds good to me, everything that isn't used or rarely used can go.

Rinspeed FR (8272)

2018-06-03 10:55

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Desscythe17 napisał
Sounds good to me, everything that isn't used or rarely used can go.

and the others members?

JFK CZ (440)

2018-06-03 16:22

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I think bonus points arent much used, but getting rid of them would go hand in hand with removal of points in general.

Rinspeed FR (8272)

2018-06-03 22:15

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Problem with removing points is that allow or not to translate IGCD or WCS. What can we do with that?

Desscythe17 NL (9482)

2018-06-03 22:22

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Rinspeed napisał Problem with removing points is that allow or not to translate IGCD or WCS. What can we do with that?

I don't know, is there any way for you to see how many people use WCS/IGCD in another language? I think the great majority uses the English page, so maybe we could get rid of translations.
You could also leave the languages we have now, because I don't think any new ones have been added in a very long time.

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Rinspeed FR (8272)

2018-06-03 22:53

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Desscythe17 napisał
I don't know, is there any way for you to see how many people use WCS/IGCD in another language? I think the great majority uses the English page, so maybe we could get rid of translations.
You could also leave the languages we have now, because I don't think any new ones have been added in a very long time.

I had Deutsch and Russian complete for IGCD (to add) and some want to open Portuguese, Polish and Hebrew

Desscythe17 NL (9482)

2018-06-03 23:49

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Rinspeed napisał
I had Deutsch and Russian complete for IGCD (to add) and some want to open Portuguese, Polish and Hebrew

I see, that makes it difficult. I honestly can't think of a way to get around that..

fck PL (4921)

2018-06-04 16:53

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Rinspeed napisał
and the others members?


Agree. Also the whole carspotting section can be deleted due to lack of popularity. There a lot of better places for it on the web, f.e. my carspotting account on flickr has 100k+ views per month.

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Rinspeed FR (8272)

2018-06-04 18:34

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fck napisał

Agree. Also the whole carspotting section can be deleted due to lack of popularity. There a lot of better places for it on the web, f.e. my carspotting account on flickr has 100k+ views per month.

Except that if we erase some things like bonus points or carspotting, we need to replace them in menu at the top of te page

Desscythe17 NL (9482)

2018-06-04 19:46

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Rinspeed napisał
Except that if we erase some things like bonus points or carspotting, we need to replace them in menu at the top of te page

We could make a new list of makes? We can rename the existing one "A-Z makes" and have a new one with only big (American, European, Japanese, Korean) makes, for easier searching.

Rinspeed FR (8272)

2018-06-04 19:51

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Desscythe17 napisał
We could make a new list of makes? We can rename the existing one "A-Z makes" and have a new one with only big (American, European, Japanese, Korean) makes, for easier searching.

there is already some of them in the page makes...

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