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1988-1995 Moskvich 2141 Aleko-Rally A6 [2141]


PT Ford78

2023-05-01 15:00
The car with following link was added by me.

webcarstory.com/voiture.php?id=53327

However, the ID= 53328 car wasn't added by me.

This Aleko-Rally 2141 was the last Official Team Moskvich Rally Car along with 2141 4x4 Rally Car, as the Official Team was closed in 1995.

Source- www.drive2.ru/b/288230376152015190/
Moskvich




NL Desscythe17

2023-02-09 20:12
SolanaBogon wrote

You could rename the main page and I'm willing to edit manually the individual entries

There you go :)
Moskvich


FR SolanaBogon

2023-02-09 19:32
Desscythe17 wrote
I would be fine with changing it, but I don't know if the system will recognize it for everything.

You could rename the main page and I'm willing to edit manually the individual entries
Moskvich




NL Desscythe17

2023-02-08 15:08
I would be fine with changing it, but I don't know if the system will recognize it for everything.

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Moskvich


FR SolanaBogon

2023-02-07 09:24
Why "Moskvitch", and not "Moskvich", without the "t"? Not only it is the correct English transcription of cyrillic "Москвич", but it is also how they spell it on brochures (at least English ones) and export badges:

www.autominded.net/brochure/div9/1969%20Moskvich%2006.jpg



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1946-1954 Moskvich 400-420




CA Lancia

2022-01-09 22:48
SolanaBogon wrote
I think it should be origin Germany


Well it had different engine and body styles. Should be related but not origin
1946-1954 Moskvich 400-420


FR SolanaBogon

2022-01-06 20:07
I think it should be origin Germany
1991 Moskvich 3733




QA JFK

2016-02-06 21:30
fck wrote

:O\
How many of these were made?

As far as I know only one, a white panel van - that is why I didnt uploaded it. Not sure why Moskvitch made these 2 years afterwards.
1991 Moskvich 3733




PL fck

2016-02-06 21:25
JFK wrote
BAZ made this car as BAZ MNA 1000 in 1989.


:O\

How many of these were made?
1991 Moskvich 3733




QA JFK

2016-02-06 21:20
BAZ made this car as BAZ MNA 1000 in 1989.
1990-1995 Lada Aleko [2141]




RB Mark0

2016-01-17 23:08
There used to be some Aleko's in Serbia but now they are extinct.
1990-1995 Lada Aleko [2141]




QA JFK

2016-01-17 21:54
Desscythe17 wrote
This was also sold in the Netherlands as Aleko 21-something. It's in my 1992 catalogue.
en.wheelsage.org/azlk/2141/ There is a Lada Aleko front picture and an Aleko S (91-92) rear picture, but I don't know if they are what you are looking for.

Nice find Desscythe17! I intentionaly tried to find SL pictures to differ it from standard eastern model, but still. You can add your variant (2141) of the name in secondary model. Soviet cars often used "nonsencial" number naming, but I know that there is system in it, depending on size, body type, engine etc.
EDIT: There it is: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Automobile_model_numbering_system_in_the_Soviet_Union_and_Russia

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1990-1995 Lada Aleko [2141]




NL Desscythe17

2016-01-17 21:39
This was also sold in the Netherlands as Aleko 21-something. It's in my 1992 catalogue.
en.wheelsage.org/azlk/2141/ There is a Lada Aleko front picture and an Aleko S (91-92) rear picture, but I don't know if they are what you are looking for.
1990-1995 Lada Aleko [2141]




QA JFK

2016-01-17 21:24
This car does not have anything in common with Lada apart from engine. On French market it was offered as Aleko (insert trim level here), on German market as Lada Aleko.
By the way, did somebody saw this car in person? I guess it must be super-rare, since there are very few pictures of it.
Moskvich




QA JFK

2015-11-11 14:56
Desscythe17 wrote

The English translation should be exactly the way you hear it. So if you hear a v-sound instead of a w-sound, it should be Moskvitch. It might be similar to the centuries-old debate about "vodka" or "wodka".

That may be the problem. In czech language, V and W have exactly same pronounciation.
But as I thought about it more, I think I somehow get it now (and thanks to IGCD member krq9), because english W sounds similar to mine U, so it would sound more oddly.

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1999-2001 Moskvich 2142 Duet-2 [2142S0]




QA JFK

2015-11-11 14:46
Desscythe17 wrote
This and webcarstory.com/voiture.php?id=22807 have the same rear picture.

They have diffrent front, but back is 100% identical.
Moskvich




NL Desscythe17

2015-11-11 10:31
JFK wrote

If am I not mistaken, cyrilic alphabet doesnt have W at all. I must say though, Moscow would look oddly with normal V, but that is only habit. In fact, I dont see reason why they did W either.

For sure it looks odd when we are using W in city name and V in car name. It should be either all W, or all V.

You might be overthinking it. The English translation should be exactly the way you hear it. So if you hear a v-sound instead of a w-sound, it should be Moskvitch. It might be similar to the centuries-old debate about "vodka" or "wodka".
1999-2001 Moskvich 2142 Duet-2 [2142S0]




NL Desscythe17

2015-11-11 09:09
This and webcarstory.com/voiture.php?id=22807 have the same rear picture.
Moskvich




QA JFK

2015-11-10 23:37
fck wrote

Can't find why we're using 'w' in Moscow, but this is an exception. в is a 'v' in every cyrillic-english transcription standard. Why not 'Moskva'? Because in XII century this city was called "Moskov".

If am I not mistaken, cyrilic alphabet doesnt have W at all. I must say though, Moscow would look oddly with normal V, but that is only habit. In fact, I dont see reason why they did W either.

For sure it looks odd when we are using W in city name and V in car name. It should be either all W, or all V.
Moskvich




PL fck

2015-11-10 23:31
[quote=JFK]Who came up with bright idea to translate it as Moskvich? It is derived from Moscow, so Moskwich would be more suitable.
(If it is not clear - it is not mistake done by anyone here, but someone who translated it in cold war)[/quote

Can't find why we're using 'w' in Moscow, but this is an exception. в is a 'v' in every cyrillic-english transcription standard. Why not 'Moskva'? Because in XII century this city was called "Moskov".
1956-1958 Moskvich 402




QA JFK

2015-11-10 23:30
This car was used by my mom parents. Whenewer you wanted to go, it didnt start.
Moskvich




QA JFK

2015-11-10 21:17
Who came up with bright idea to translate it as Moskvich? It is derived from Moscow, so Moskwich would be more suitable.
(If it is not clear - it is not mistake done by anyone here, but someone who translated it in cold war)
1991 Moskvich 2143 Yuza




PL fck

2011-09-23 11:15
Yup, in Moscow.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=NXKY4ZNYBZo
www.metacafe.com/watch/588222/azlk_moskvich_museum_in_moskow/
1991 Moskvich 2143 Yuza


FR Tak

2011-09-23 02:58
Moskvitch have a museum ?
1988 Moskvich 2141 KR


IT Mustang__Boss

2011-09-16 15:48
yes it's a group b rally car. it isn't so famous
1988 Moskvich 2141 KR




PL fck

2011-06-19 14:30
I am absolutely sure about the year, so it had to be a car for Group S or smth else.
1988 Moskvich 2141 KR




FR Rinspeed

2011-06-19 11:00
giorgio92 wrote
it's a group b rally car?

i don't think or there is an error on the year. Group B is ending in 1986 and some makes do some prototypes in 1986 for the Group S (that had never began in 1987 because of the erase of the Group B). So??
1988 Moskvich 2141 KR


IT giorgio92

2011-06-19 10:53
it's a group b rally car?
1985-1988 Moskvich 2144 Istra




PL fck

2011-05-09 20:10
My pleasure. Feel free to ask about almost everything related to central- and east-european cars.

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1985-1988 Moskvich 2144 Istra




NL Desscythe17

2011-05-09 20:00
Thanks for the info. It really helps me out.
1985-1988 Moskvich 2144 Istra




PL fck

2011-05-09 18:06
Aleko is a name of serial Moskvitch (2141 Aleko, made 1986-2001). Maybe this concept had to enter serial production under Aleko name, but everywhere it's described as "Istra" (as you can see on a front "plate"). But if we talking about car manufactor names: Moskvitch = AZLK. ;)

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1985-1988 Moskvich 2144 Istra




NL Desscythe17

2011-05-09 17:53
Steering wheel and the rear both say "Aleko", and I remember that as a russian car manufactor, so shouldn't this car be an Aleko instead of a Moskvitch? (sorry if I'm wrong, I'm not good at East-European and Russian cars.)
1964-1965 Moskvich PT


FR Tak

2011-05-09 11:53
Total Recall too :D
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