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Since 2020 Fiat 500
Desscythe17 NL (11597)
Rinspeed wrote PDP, there is another engine, no?

I believe it's only sold as EV, but with two different power outputs.
2021-01-13 18:55
Since 2020 Fiat 500
Rinspeed FR (9952)
PDP, there is another engine, no? 2021-01-13 18:51
Since 2020 VAZ Lada Niva [2123]
Desscythe17 NL (11597)
JFK wrote Since 2021 sold as Niva Travel

It also got a big facelift along with the new name
2021-01-12 06:50
Since 2020 VAZ Lada Niva [2123]
JFK CZ (730)
Since 2021 sold as Niva Travel 2021-01-11 23:35
Since 2019 VAZ Lada Niva Legend (4x4) [21214]
JFK CZ (730)
Since 2021 sold as Niva Legend 2021-01-11 23:33
2021 Dakar Classic Rally
Rinspeed FR (9952)
Ford78 wrote Aren't the Nissan Patrol GR T1 and Mitsubishi Pajero Evolution the same model as the models that used to run in Dakar Rally?

perhaps yes
2021-01-11 21:09
2021 Dakar Rally
Roman-815 UA (15)10. #326 Christian Lavieille

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2021-01-11 05:08
2021 Dakar Classic Rally
Ford78 PT (1594)Aren't the Nissan Patrol GR T1 and Mitsubishi Pajero Evolution the same model as the models that used to run in Dakar Rally? 2021-01-10 22:37
1972-1974 Autozodiaco Škoda Kirby Buggy
JFK CZ (730)
Wohoo! 2021-01-10 21:15
1969-1974 Autozodiaco Deserter
PDP IT (31)
the 1.2 already listed is gasoline not diesel. My mistake. 2021-01-10 20:59
Fiat PDP IT (31)
I wonder what is the reason why the page of the Ritmo 3rd series has not been accepted. I have entered all the engines available, at least those listed in the book dedicated to the model in my possession. 2021-01-10 20:25
Since 2019 VAZ Lada Niva Legend (4x4) [2131]
JFK CZ (730)
Apparently 5-door niva ends. 2021-01-10 15:20
Since 2020 Aston Martin V12 Speedster
Lancia CA (24)
88 examples to be made.

www.astonmartin.com/en-US/Models/future-models/V12-Speedster
2021-01-10 05:24
Since 2021 Jeep Grand Cherokee L Series V
Lancia CA (24)
Looks Dodge-ey from the front. 2021-01-10 05:19
1978-1982 Mitsubishi Mirage Mk.I [A150]
Desscythe17 NL (11597)
carcrasher88 wrote I wonder if anyone here can recognize what country plate that is in the front image, clearly it's not Japanese.

That's definitely an older French plate.
2021-01-09 19:00
1982-1983 Mitsubishi Mirage Mk.I [A150]
Desscythe17 NL (11597)
carcrasher88 wrote Anyone else notice the Michigan Manufacturer's Plate in the front image? Bit strange for a car that wasn't sold by Mitsubishi in the US (as Mitsubishi didn't sell the Mirage in the US themselves until the second gen in '85, before that Mirages were only sold in the US as captive imports by Dodge/Plymouth).

They did that more often, for various JDM cars. I guess it gave the promotional pics some international flair.
2021-01-09 19:00
Since 2021 Jeep Grand Cherokee L Series V
carcrasher88 US (12)Supposedly, the chassis code for the next gen GC will be WL, though this L version might be different.

Also, it's supposedly built upon a stretched Giorgio platform, making four firsts for the platform: first long wheelbase variant, first non-Alfa Romeo use of the platform, first vehicle on the platform built outside of Italy (as it will be the first complete vehicle built in the repurposed Mack Avenue Complex), and first vehicle on the platform to offer a V8 engine.
2021-01-09 16:26
1978-1982 Mitsubishi Mirage Mk.I [A150]
carcrasher88 US (12)I wonder if anyone here can recognize what country plate that is in the front image, clearly it's not Japanese. 2021-01-09 16:20
1982-1983 Mitsubishi Mirage Mk.I [A150]
carcrasher88 US (12)Anyone else notice the Michigan Manufacturer's Plate in the front image? Bit strange for a car that wasn't sold by Mitsubishi in the US (as Mitsubishi didn't sell the Mirage in the US themselves until the second gen in '85, before that Mirages were only sold in the US as captive imports by Dodge/Plymouth). 2021-01-09 16:19
2020 Russia: Russian Circuit Racing Series: GT4
mikhail2003 UA (36)Isn't only one category of the championship should be listed? 2021-01-09 14:13
Since 2016 Fiat 124 Spider
Desscythe17 NL (11597)
I put it back on in production, because it's still listed on the official website: www.fiatusa.com/spider.html 2021-01-07 17:32
1992-1996 Caterham 7 JPE
Desscythe17 NL (11597)
Lancia wrote Should the second name be Jonathon Palmer Evolution?

Nah
2021-01-06 00:31
1992-1996 Caterham 7 JPE
Lancia CA (24)
Should the second name be Jonathon Palmer Evolution? 2021-01-05 22:11
2016-2019 Porsche Cayman GT4 Clubsport (Cayman GT4 Clubsport MR) [981C]
Rinspeed FR (9952)
Attacker1997 wrote This car and the 718 GT4 Clubsport aren't the same model. They are two different generations of Cayman

Mark0, can you see that, as it's your car?
2021-01-04 15:34
2016-2019 Porsche Cayman GT4 Clubsport (Cayman GT4 Clubsport MR) [981C]
Lancia CA (24)
Apparently only 421 made. 2021-01-03 20:43
2016-2019 Porsche Cayman GT4 Clubsport (Cayman GT4 Clubsport MR) [981C]
Attacker1997 BR (4)
This car and the 718 GT4 Clubsport aren't the same model. They are two different generations of Cayman 2021-01-03 17:27
2020 Germany: DTM: Deutsche Tourenwagen Masters
mikhail2003 UA (36)I haven't linked the cars, since it looks like, there was a new generation, that isn't on a site 2021-01-03 13:24
2000 Germany: DTM: Deutsche Tourenwagen Masters
mikhail2003 UA (36)There were also two Lausitzring races scheduled on 3 September, but were cancelled due to heavy rain, IDK should it be listed or not. 2021-01-03 09:21
Dongfeng PDP IT (31)
One of the models not listed here, the Glory 580, is sold in Italy under the "Giotti Victoria" brand, which already imported and rebranded small vans. 2021-01-02 12:31
Since 2014 Volkswagen Jetta 6 [Typ 5K]
PDP IT (31)
For Italy it is "yes". My mistake is due to the fact that it is currently no longer on the list, as well as to never having seen one live. 2021-01-02 12:09
2019 Germany: DTM: Deutsche Tourenwagen Masters
mikhail2003 UA (36)
Mark0 wrote You forgot to add Ronnie Quintarelli.

I know, I've just took a break.

Lancia wrote Since when did Jensen Button drive in DTM

He wasn't a DTM driver, he was invited from SuperGT, since the German series had a similar regulations that year. However in 2021 will join the championship with a privateer McLaren.

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2021-01-02 08:05
2019 Germany: DTM: Deutsche Tourenwagen Masters
Lancia CA (24)
Since when did Jensen Button drive in DTM 2021-01-02 00:01
Foday SolanaBogon FR (9)At first that company was named "Fudi". It appears to have changed to "Foday" around 2012 or 2013. The Chinese name stayed the same: "福迪" 2021-01-01 22:18
2019 Germany: DTM: Deutsche Tourenwagen Masters
Mark0 RB (1794)
You forgot to add Ronnie Quintarelli. 2021-01-01 13:26
1987-1988 Daewoo Royale Salon
JFK CZ (730)
For 1989 this car effectively merged together with Salon Super, getting that extra window in the C pillar. 2020-12-31 08:59
1979-1984 Saehan Daewoo Max (Max 850)
JFK CZ (730)
Also sold in Greece and Chile. The unsold stock in greece got later re-imported to Norway.

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2020-12-31 08:30
1974-1979 GM Korea Saehan Saemaul
JFK CZ (730)
Apparently 50 of these were also exported to Liberia in 1978. These really old Korean cars dont have alot of data avaliable, so my apologies for a major lack of data.

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2020-12-31 02:20
2003-2008 Ford SportKa
JFK CZ (730)
Rather silly name in czech. "Sportka" is like a Lotto in english, word synonymous with lottery. 2020-12-29 22:03
1965-1969 Fiat 600
Lancia CA (24)
Looks like a Zaporozhets 2020-12-29 18:06
1965-1968 Fiat 500
PDP IT (31)
The 500 F, the one in the photo, was joined by the 500 L from 1968, but not replaced. So the production deadline is 1972, when the 500 R arrived to replace both of them. 2020-12-29 14:19
1965-1969 Fiat 600
PDP IT (31)
I believe the 600 should be divided into two versions. One with suicide doors, produced until 1964 and to which was added the more powerful 600 D since 1960, and one produced starting from 1965, when the wind doors were adopted, actually arrived the year before but without aesthetic changes, will be eliminated, the chrome profiles and adopted larger front lights. Precisely this modification has led to the nickname "Fanalona" in Italy.

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2020-12-29 14:09
Webcarstory Desscythe17 NL (11597)
Rinspeed wrote for the trim differences, yes it could be interesting but how could we do with the variety in different countries?

How do you mean? Right now you often do special editions just for French market, right? Isn’t that the same thing?
2020-12-29 10:50
Webcarstory Rinspeed FR (9952)
for the trim differences, yes it could be interesting but how could we do with the variety in different countries? 2020-12-28 23:02
Webcarstory Rinspeed FR (9952)
Desscythe17 wrote

- I think the technical data is the main thing of WCS, so I'm not very in favor of simplifying it. I think WCS is unique because it combines technical data with a better visual representation (most technical data websites are just walls of text and numbers). However, I'm not opposed to removing fuel consumption for example (because it's not a factual number, and so many sources for the same car claim different numbers - same with top speed and acceleration). The other data (other than trunk volume) in my opinion is important. Maybe we could do a different layout, so if you look at an engine, the data is more clear?

- Ads being deleted is fine.

- I don't personally care about colors and model cars, so do whatever you want. Limited series to me is not as interesting as trim differences, like I have explained in the past. We can keep it as is, expand it, or simplify it. To me what matters is having more slots for pictures, so you can show different looks of a car without having to make a new page for it.

- Top 10 is difficult. I like it, but the data is difficult to obtain, unless you are from that particular country/speak the language of that country. There are websites that gather all the data for different countries, but you have to pay in order to get the data. This is why I added a lot of this data in the past, but not anymore.

Yes perhaps a different layout for technical data
2020-12-28 22:42
Webcarstory Desscythe17 NL (11597)
Rinspeed wrote Hello,
What is your proposition of modifications for WCS? I have begin the work on it (in the same system than IGCD) but not a lot at this time.
I think we have to determinate the things that differenciate WCS from another car website or wikipedia.
Perhaps the technicals data are a little bit too complicated to add for members (simplification?) and very similar to a lot of websites.
Ads video are outdated> will be deleted
Limited Series, Colors, Model Cars are a difference with others websites
Championship is an important thing also
Top 10 less but it could be better for that and not a lot of work for it.
What are you think of all these things?


- I think the technical data is the main thing of WCS, so I'm not very in favor of simplifying it. I think WCS is unique because it combines technical data with a better visual representation (most technical data websites are just walls of text and numbers). However, I'm not opposed to removing fuel consumption for example (because it's not a factual number, and so many sources for the same car claim different numbers - same with top speed and acceleration). The other data (other than trunk volume) in my opinion is important. Maybe we could do a different layout, so if you look at an engine, the data is more clear?

- Ads being deleted is fine.

- I don't personally care about colors and model cars, so do whatever you want. Limited series to me is not as interesting as trim differences, like I have explained in the past. We can keep it as is, expand it, or simplify it. To me what matters is having more slots for pictures, so you can show different looks of a car without having to make a new page for it.

- Top 10 is difficult. I like it, but the data is difficult to obtain, unless you are from that particular country/speak the language of that country. There are websites that gather all the data for different countries, but you have to pay in order to get the data. This is why I added a lot of this data in the past, but not anymore.

-- Last edit: 2020-12-28 20:13:02
2020-12-28 20:12
Webcarstory Rinspeed FR (9952)
Hello,
What is your proposition of modifications for WCS? I have begin the work on it (in the same system than IGCD) but not a lot at this time.
I think we have to determinate the things that differenciate WCS from another car website or wikipedia.
Perhaps the technicals data are a little bit too complicated to add for members (simplification?) and very similar to a lot of websites.
Ads video are outdated> will be deleted
Limited Series, Colors, Model Cars are a difference with others websites
Championship is an important thing also
Top 10 less but it could be better for that and not a lot of work for it.
What are you think of all these things?
2020-12-28 15:08
1977-1978 Fiat 128 Abarth
PDP IT (31)
I think this page should be deleted. This is not a sports version of the 128, as the name might suggest, but only a special version for the German market, and only for this because the few present in Italy are certainly of subsequent imports, which use the 1300 as a base. I think it should be included among the special series for the 128 Third Series. 2020-12-28 14:09
2001-2007 Formosa Matiz [M150]
JFK CZ (730)
There were clear taillights avaliable at least since 2004, but i dont have much data about that version 2020-12-27 18:30
2007-2014 Fiat Bravo (Ritmo)
PDP IT (31)
Fiat Ritmo on the Australian market. 2020-12-27 12:45
2020 Cross Country Baja World Cup
Rinspeed FR (9952)
this is why i have post NQ for him in Baja Poland as i don't know the problem. 2020-12-18 14:00

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