1989-1992 Renault 19 Chamade



Origin: FR France

Class: Sedan

Chassis: L53

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2016-02-12 18:36

Our old family car, I miss it that much :(

BTW: I am not 100% sure about engine years, these might be off.
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2016-02-12 18:42
and i dont think there is only these engines
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2016-02-12 19:03
Rinspeed wrote
and i dont think there is only these engines

I guess it is all now. Wikipedia, Auto-data, and Autopedia sites are all giving fairly different informations.
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2016-02-12 20:15
JFK wrote

I guess it is all now. Wikipedia, Auto-data, and Autopedia sites are all giving fairly different informations.

i will see in the future with my books
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2016-02-12 20:28
Rinspeed wrote

i will see in the future with my books

Okay then.
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2016-02-12 21:55
Am I the only one who is surprised that the most powerful engine on this late eighties car is a diesel engine?
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2016-02-12 22:01
Desscythe17 wrote
Am I the only one who is surprised that the most powerful engine on this late eighties car is a diesel engine?

See "other models", the most powerful one has its separate page.
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2016-02-12 22:17
JFK wrote

See "other models", the most powerful one has its separate page.

Yes that is true, but if you don't consider the sport model, it still is the most powerful, which I think is quite a feat. 89hp for a diesel engine in 1989 is also quite formidable I think.
At least, compared to a V8 10 years earlier... webcarstory.com/voiture.php?id=13822

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2016-02-12 22:21
Desscythe17 wrote

Yes that is true, but if you don't consider the sport model, it still is the most powerful, which I think is quite a feat. 89hp for a diesel engine in 1989 is also quite formidable I think.

From that point of view yeah. I dont remember much of this car (7,5 years old when it was sold), but after riding 1st gen Thalia with basic 1.2 engine that had similar amount of power and weight like our 1.4 Chamade, it must be frightnening to ride Chamade with more horsepower than basic 60.
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2016-02-13 00:05
JFK wrote

From that point of view yeah. I dont remember much of this car (7,5 years old when it was sold), but after riding 1st gen Thalia with basic 1.2 engine that had similar amount of power and weight like our 1.4 Chamade, it must be frightnening to ride Chamade with more horsepower than basic 60.

I wouldn't say frightening, but the difference would definitely be noticable. I remember after I got my driver's license (I had lessons in a 2010 Polo 1.2 Diesel with 75hp) I got to drive my father's car, a 2003 Honda Accord 2.4 with 190hp. That car was a lot heavier than the Polo, but it was so difficult in the beginning to not launch forward when pressing the gas pedal. It felt like 190hp was like 300hp.
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2016-02-13 00:34
Desscythe17 wrote

I wouldn't say frightening, but the difference would definitely be noticable. I remember after I got my driver's license (I had lessons in a 2010 Polo 1.2 Diesel with 75hp) I got to drive my father's car, a 2003 Honda Accord 2.4 with 190hp. That car was a lot heavier than the Polo, but it was so difficult in the beginning to not launch forward when pressing the gas pedal. It felt like 190hp was like 300hp.


I got that experience vice versa. We went to shopping trip to Poland two years ago or so, and alternator in car broke down, that forced belt to split in half.... just before country borders (literally 10 meters), tow truck rescured us (hopefully for in-country tows under certain distance it was free, so we were very lucky), and as a replacement vehicle from Renault dealership we got Thalia.

Laguna - 1.6, 107hp, roughly 1350 kg
Thalia - 1.2, 75hp, roughly 1000 kg or less
My dad usually drive as a complete lunatic, but amount of force that pushed me back with every acceleration was huge. Laguna with hammer down dont act like this, you dont feel much acceleration in it.
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2016-02-13 04:04
JFK wrote


I got that experience vice versa. We went to shopping trip to Poland two years ago or so, and alternator in car broke down, that forced belt to split in half.... just before country borders (literally 10 meters), tow truck rescured us (hopefully for in-country tows under certain distance it was free, so we were very lucky), and as a replacement vehicle from Renault dealership we got Thalia.

Laguna - 1.6, 107hp, roughly 1350 kg
Thalia - 1.2, 75hp, roughly 1000 kg or less
My dad usually drive as a complete lunatic, but amount of force that pushed me back with every acceleration was huge. Laguna with hammer down dont act like this, you dont feel much acceleration in it.

Yes my sister actually has a 2005 Clio with the 1.6 110hp engine. It's a very feisty car, and I can imagine it has that same character even with a smaller engine.
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2016-02-13 08:40
Since i my family restore classic cars i have driven many of them and i must say it's hell a lot harder to drive 1970's-1980's Mini with 60-70hp than new my brother 2003 Mini with 120hp. There are no electronics and servo helpers or so. Funny thing when i was Track Day with my friend and first i was driving his 2012 BMW 535d with 313hp and then my MG B GT with 120hp. That BMW was child play even if it has over 300hp.
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2016-02-13 13:36
Mark0 wrote
Since i my family restore classic cars i have driven many of them

Nice! What was the most interesting or odd car you drove?

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2016-02-13 14:44
JFK wrote

Nice! What was the most interesting or odd car you drove?

I don't know. Maybe driving Willys MB through capital on rush hour :D
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2016-02-13 15:40
Mark0 wrote

I don't know. Maybe driving Willys MB through capital on rush hour :D

Woow, i wish I was you. It must been so cool!
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2016-02-13 18:15
JFK wrote

Woow, i wish I was you. It must been so cool!

It was great. Everyone looking at me and i was like 'You never saw Willys in traffic' :D
And i must ask is there any MG B or B GT in Czech Republic?
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2016-02-13 18:37
Mark0 wrote

It was great. Everyone looking at me and i was like 'You never saw Willys in traffic' :D
And i must ask is there any MG B or B GT in Czech Republic?

As far as I know there are 16 cars of this type.

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